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Ahem...  Mr Fripp and King Crimson!!!


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Eb or Bb or their minors when writing on piano, C# or F# or their minors when writing on guitar.  Also, open G or open Bb when writing on guitar.  Dennis

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Ironically,having just had to take a look at Zep's 'Dancing Days' (for a project), I see dat Debil Interval all over the shop,but the vocal melody is a blues pentatonic contraption.
The 'form' decreed to Crimson that-- once commenced,it must finish-- tritone (examples: 'Starless', 'One more RN', 'Red' 'Fracture' LTIAPt.Deux').
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Apologies for posting about boring subjects regarding writing music,but  I like the key of D major for both pno and gtr.It's very bright,pure,and remarkably free from harmonic(and demonic) interference. For example 'Emma' is D maj.
If the song had been in Dm,it would have been too melodramatic.The brightness of the chord and the major scale melody gives hope. 
btw--It's particularly refreshing to have a chorus in D coming from a verse based in Bm.I think iCon's 'I Stand Alone' is an example.
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Apologies for posting about boring subjects regarding writing music,but  I like thre key of D major for both pno and gtr.It's very bright,pure,and remarkably free from harmonic(and demonic) interference. For example 'Emma' is D maj.
If the song had been in Dm,it would have been too melodramatic.The brightness of the chord and the major scale melody gives hope. 
btw--It's particularly refreshing to have a chorus in D coming from a verse based in Bm.I think iCon's 'I Stand Alone' is an example.

Not boring at all! Thank you, John.

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To reiterate what Gala said, not boring at all, Johan!  We thank you for your participation!  As you can see from some of the responses to this thread, some of us music/music theory geeks enjoy this type of stuff.  Hopefully the non-geeks on here are enjoying this too and learning something or will at least tolerate it.  Thanks again!


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And just to add another song with the devil's interval, Heart's "Devil Delight" (Bflat to E).  Love that tune. I would have to agree with Johan, D major is a great key to use (although I have a tendency to use Cminor and Aminor a lot in my songwriting). But somehow I seem to always end up on a Major chord for the finale.  


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Hello John,

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Ironically,having just had to take a look at Zep's 'Dancing Days' (for a project), I see dat Debil Interval all over the shop,but the vocal melody is a blues pentatonic contraption.
The 'form' decreed to Crimson that-- once commenced,it must finish-- tritone (examples: 'Starless', 'One more RN', 'Red' 'Fracture' LTIAPt.Deux').


Can you tell us what "project" you are working on involving this song?

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Yes,it was charity Zep tribute. I don't know if it's released yet, but I'm sure Kim will let us all know if and when it is.
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Ah, that must have been one of Billy Sherwood's many 'All Star Tribute' projects?
I enjoyed 'Back Against The Wall' very much. (which reminds me to do another 'tribute' radio show pretty soon). Thanks for that, Johan.
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I was thinking D maj too, before reading Johan's post.  I like playing in a min on pno but it's a bit dark (which is usually good for a minor key) and a bit low in my vocal register.  D maj is usually a good vocal range for me as well.  A maj seems to be a good pno key too.  Worst for pno playing?  Either Bmaj or D-b maj.  Deadly.  Add incidentals, and fuggedaboudit.


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April,
Don't be down on Db.  "HOTM" is in Db!  Also, "The Last Song" by EJ among many more, I'm sure.
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Thankfully, Dennis, executing THAT one is not my problem --

Maybe it's easier on guitar/bass???

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