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Anyone can criticize. Usually those who are least qualified to.
At the re-mixed 'Red' playback. One of the big-wigs remarked to me how great it sounded. I told him it always sounded great,because it was a great album. End of story.
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'Red' is definitely one of my desert island discs. 

I miss the 'dirty' sound of vinyl.  Maybe it's because we grew up on that format, but most CDs end up being a little TOO pure-sounding, almost sterile.  For lack of a better analogy, or maybe because it's the best one anyway -- vinyl had balls.

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Thank you John for giving us an extraordinary album such as "Red" in 1974: the first issue was great and the remastering as well, cause a quality album remains the same after all these years and the improvement was not necessary (even though the remastered version obviously has been appreciated by the fans): the original one worked well anyway...and for example if you consider a live record of yours, that's an analogic record of your live gig in Tokyo with UK ("Night After Night", I mean), it didn't require an improvement, cause it was perfect as it was in 1979 and still today (the same applies to your Studio Album "Danger Money"!!)

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'Red' is definitely one of my desert island discs. 

I miss the 'dirty' sound of vinyl.  Maybe it's because we grew up on that format, but most CDs end up being a little TOO pure-sounding, almost sterile.  For lack of a better analogy, or maybe because it's the best one anyway -- vinyl had balls.
Dirty being the operative....scraped off fry ups,fags and scratches galor.Never sounded better.

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Hello all. Longtime reader, first time I've posted since back in the early '00s. My apologies if this has been asked before, but is there enough bonus material for a Rhino-like reissue of the first three albums (remastered disc + bonus disc of rarities)? I never bought the Geffen Gold remasters because I was hoping for each album to be released again separately with artwork, liner notes, etc.

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TPE, welcome from being in the shadows.

Amie.  Does someone say, "I think that Sunflowers by Van Gogh needs a touch more green."  And then they add paint.  I don't think so.

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Yes I agree Mr Beontime, what matters is the artistic content, not the packaging of the single cd or the cd box set...

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Looking back earlier in the thread, I realized I hadn't posted my thoughts on the reissue vs. the regular edition cd. I can tell you were all waiting with bated breath

The main basis for my comparison are 256k mp3s that I ripped from each album in iTunes, and played back on Klipsch speakers. I know I know, SHOCK HORROR, mp3's are lossy, they degrade the sound quality, etc. But this is the main way I listen to music, and I wanted to see if the remastering would have an effect that was discernable through the mp3 compression.

The short answer is yes, but not really. For me, the difference was most notable on denser sections, with a lot of elements (such as choruses of "Without You") where the overall mix seemed a little clearer. Other than that, highs seemed a little clearer (a little less hiss) and some percussive elements had a more visceral "smack" to them. 

I've listened to both cds on a regular stereo, in this case a mid range JVC dvd player, amp and Polk speakers. Both editions sounded good, again, no revelations from the remastered cd but overall impression was better clarity. Eventually I'll have a player that can decode the HDCD and perhaps that will unlock a bit more clarity. 

So would I recommend that everyone run out and plop down their cash to replace their current copy of the album? No, especially if you're on a budget, then you're probably going to be happier buying the new album and getting tickets to see the band live. Also no if you listen to your music most of the time on something like an ipod, or on average computer speakers or an average car stereo. If you're an audiophile, or just have better than average stereo gear and do most of your listening on a stereo, then you'll likely appreciate this release.

If nothing else, it's indicative of the band's rising stature these days that a company was willing to invest in this release. 

Caveat - I did not compare this release to the version on the Anthologia compilation as I don't have it. My understanding is the albums for that release were "remastered" but I'm not certain of that. Can anyone shed some light on that?

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