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The Atoll E2E has nothing in common with Wetton/Downes E2E except the title.
PolyGram France turned the project down.
Trevor came to rehearse with us after the quadquorum was established,and probably did sing OTWT. As for OOALH being a response to HOTM-I don't think so.
I rehearsed with Trevor in California earlier that year. Kalodner thought there was mileage in the two of us,but eventually resigned himself to the fact that there WAS mileage,considerable mileage,but not in the same band.We're more than compatible,by the way,as one would imagine,musically and personally.
You would have to ask our beloved,departed Mike Stone about the mixes on Alpha,because only he could give you the answer you seek. Everyone knows they're not as robust as "Asia",or "Astra", but he knows why,and he's not around to tell,so we'll just let that one go.


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Thanks John for the elucidation...

I always liked Mike Stone's production - HUGE! I thought his contribution to both the first ASIA album and JOURNEY'S Frontiers kicked arse. A shame he is no longer around.
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if i am not mistaken one of those songs was presented to Wishbone Ash. 'Here Comes the Feeling' if i am not mistaken. Johan mentioned they did not 'get it'. their loss, our gain. Johan, unless the song i have is a very deliberate joke, Mr. Rabin did sing on a demo of OTWT. legend has it it was called 'Starry Eyes' at the time and before Geoff's 'fanfare' at the beginning.


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I'm trying, but I just can't imagine OTWT without Geoff's fanfare...


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Yeah Pete I have heard that demo called Starry Eyes.
Trevor is very Talent musician,but it doesn't rock like the one we all have on the 1st ASIA album.

His voice just wasn't made for that song.

I'm glad that he went on to write a #1 hit for Yes.
He gave them a whole new life to there music,when everything seemed to be falling apart for them.

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I always thought TR to be strongest in a collaborative setting which is why that first regrouped Yes album worked so well. I know there had to be a real effort on the part of all the parties to pedal real fast to keep up with Asia at the time.

TR is a great guitarist but I thought when he began to take on the producer role, things became a little to middle of the road, vanilla tasting for me. The fact is, that album would have sounded a lot different had SH been playing on it and dare I say, not as slickly gleaned as it were. TR has turned out to be a pretty good movie scorer as of late working primarily for the Jerry Bruckheimer machine.

Mike Stone was one of the main architects of the Asia sound, god bless him for creating a truly unique sound for four unique players.

I remember those dark days (after the '83 Asia in Asia debacle) when they did a special MTV News piece that Asia (w/Greg Lake) was going into the studio with Martin Rushent, who up to that point was known for his work with the Human League and the Go-Go's. I have always supported the boys but that one would have been interesting to say that least. Thank god JW came back to the fold with Mike Stone as well.

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I seem to remember Trevor Rabin mentioning in an interview long ago that he was in an early incarnation of Asia, prior (or maybe in addition) to the "original" line-up.

Any truth in the rumour that the guitar intro to Owner of a Lonely Heart is a response to the guitar intro to Heat of the Moment?
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If I may… I was binging with Geoffrey at the rainbow in LA, back in Jan of 2002 and in our long conversation, he did mention with regret, that. “He had that RIFF with him and we could have gotten the hit!” in regards to Trevor’s short time in the band.


I rehearsed with Trevor in California earlier that year. Kalodner thought there was mileage in the two of us,but eventually resigned himself to the fact that there WAS mileage,considerable mileage,but not in the same band.We're more than compatible,by the way,as one would imagine,musically and personally.
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sad. but ya know john… solo lp, ICON, the future is very bright!



and food for THOUGHT!



In 2010 ASTRA will be 25 years YOUNG! I wonder how ASIA will celebrate the anniversary!?!???


Mandy Meyer is currently lead guitarist with KROKUS (and previously with GOTTHARD). I heard he was Smokin live on tour in Europe!



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Where DO they get these names from?!
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That comes from a Swiss toponym. I don't know why I seem to like all of the bands with names of places: Asia, Gotthard (awesome live, BTW), Boston, Chicago, U.K.


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Such is the purity of Roger's mind. I'm sure the pun is not wasted on our erstwhile shredder----Mandy learned much of these things-and more (including rhyming slang) during his banjo tenure in the Asiatic fraternity. Gotthard in Switzerland?
I know I have!
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OK, I'm sooo slow at non-Catalan jokes...
After 9 hours I got it my grandmother would wash those dirty swiss mouths with soap.
 'thoug Leo Leoni seems to be more politically correct here http://www.mundorock.org/Secciones/entrevista-leoleoni.html
I think I'm going to re-read all the Wetton-penned lyrics

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OK, I'm sooo slow at non-Catalan jokes...
After 9 hours I got it my grandmother would wash those dirty swiss mouths with soap.
 'thoug Leo Leoni seems to be more politically correct here http://www.mundorock.org/Secciones/entrevista-leoleoni.html
I think I'm going to re-read all the Wetton-penned lyrics

Johan, the Gotthard in Switzerland line-up - did that feature I.B. Spörtenwüd on drums?


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Ownlee won plank.

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Go Jada! They aren't board yet...


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It's been years since I've heard of things like Astra and Drama. Astra, I recall, was the one I sort of missed (didn't really hear it) and the album that (before the slang) some said "Jumped the shark." I'm not saying that, but you know how the skeptics operate, just waiting for a group to ebb a little so they can tear in to them.

 

I can say now that had I known that music was to become so completely rotten as it is these days, I would have appreciated Asia so much more. And on Drama. Damn I loved that record. Haven't heard it in 20 years I bet.

 

Asia's first one was the year I done gradgeated. So it is special.


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