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The track Daylight is really a great one. I'm scratching my head wondering why the track was originally included on cassette and not on LP's and CD's back in the day. I feel that the record company made a huge mistake by not pushing this song as a single. In my opinion, it could have been a big hit on top 40 and AOR radio.


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I've read in interviews from Johan that record companies would hold songs back in an effort to get people to buy the cassettes of the release and discourage home-taping (this was the early 80s). "Daylight" was included on the cassette release version if "Alpha" if memory serves.



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I've read in interviews from Johan that record companies would hold songs back in an effort to get people to buy the cassettes of the release and discourage home-taping (this was the early 80s). "Daylight" was included on the cassette release version if "Alpha" if memory serves.



Yep, that was the reasoning.  What's sad is that manufactured tapes were really crappy quality compared to some of the higher end recordable tapes that were available at the time. 

Just for fun, pull out one of those old tapes and try playing it today. 

Heck, I still have some old 8-track tapes (but no player).  Hard to believe that technology has advanced so much in the last 30 years that you can now have 10,000 songs loaded onto an IPOD that is 1/4 the size of one 8-track tape. 

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Another problem with tape is that it doesn't last. The glue that holds the oxide or whatever to the plastic eventually drys up the tape starts to flake away after a lot of playings.

Allen, remember when if your car had an 8-track player it was state-of-the-art!....bring back the 70s....



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Daylight was also a B side single on 45 with Don't Cry on the other side. Also on The Smile Has Left Your Eyes  the song Lyin To Yourself was the extra song on that 45 that was released back then I still have both 45's
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Somewhere I think I still have the 45 of Don't Cry with Daylight on the B-side. I forget which I got first - the 45 or the LP, whichever was released first in Baltimore. I know I had 'em both before Asia rolled into Merriweather Post Pavilion 14.Aug.83.

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Don't Cry and Daylight were on one single and The Smile Has left Your Eyes  along with Lyin To Yourself was on another 45. Maybe Johan can clear this up I could've swore I saw a 45 when Asia first came out with Heat of the Moment on one side and the other song was called Starry Eyes. I could be wrong
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Another problem with tape is that it doesn't last. The glue that holds the oxide or whatever to the plastic eventually drys up the tape starts to flake away after a lot of playings.

Allen, remember when if your car had an 8-track player it was state-of-the-art!....bring back the 70s....



I was just getting into music around age 12 or 13 when the 8-track tape was on it's last legs in the industry.  Most of the music I bought was on vinyl and I had a few cassettes and 8-tracks.  My favorite 8-track memory was my older brother-in-laws' 1977 Trans Am.  He had a huge box in the backseat that carried only 10 or 12 8-track tapes.    They were huge and the track listing, artwork, etc. was always peeling off. 

One I distinctly remember was Styx' "Pieces of Eight" and their hit "Renegade".  The song started out with the slow solo intro by Tommy Shaw and right when it was ready to kick into the rocking part of the song, the tape "chunked" over to the next channel.  It was so frustratingly silly! 

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I've read in interviews from Johan that record companies would hold songs back in an effort to get people to buy the cassettes of the release and discourage home-taping (this was the early 80s). "Daylight" was included on the cassette release version if "Alpha" if memory serves.



Yep, that was the reasoning.  What's sad is that manufactured tapes were really crappy quality compared to some of the higher end recordable tapes that were available at the time. 

Just for fun, pull out one of those old tapes and try playing it today. 

Heck, I still have some old 8-track tapes (but no player).  Hard to believe that technology has advanced so much in the last 30 years that you can now have 10,000 songs loaded onto an IPOD that is 1/4 the size of one 8-track tape. 


I remember that. I used to dub them over to one of the Maxell or TDK metal tapes because the quality was a lot better. I didn't have to do that with Alpha though because it did come out on a pretty good tape for it's day. I did it mostly with Pink Floyd. I remember Pulse really gained from being dubed.
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Talking about old stuff like 1970, I have ex's reel-to-reel in the basement, but the reels are up here.  Wonder what they sound like now?  Light bulb came on.  I first taped Asia from the radio on it.  Oh, that dates me.

Edit: My ex bought it around 1970--we weren't married yet.  Whew, that makes me younger. 

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beontime careful with those old reels, tape can start to disintegrate when it's gets old, especially reels. Sometimes they have to be sent out and baked before you can play them again.


I saw a 45 when Asia first came out with Heat of the Moment on one side and the other song was called Starry Eyes

That was the working title for "Only Time Will Tell".



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Don't Cry and Daylight were on one single and The Smile Has left Your Eyes  along with Lyin To Yourself was on another 45. Maybe Johan can clear this up I could've swore I saw a 45 when Asia first came out with Heat of the Moment on one side and the other song was called Starry Eyes. I could be wrong

That's cool that alot of us had these same singles!    But the "B-side" I had with my "Heat Of The Moment" single was "Ride Easy".  Truthfully, I preferred "Ride Easy" over "Heat..."!!   


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Maybe Johan can clear this up I could've swore I saw a 45 when Asia first came out with Heat of the Moment on one side and the other song was called Starry Eyes. I could be wrong.

It would be great but extremely rare , I have various versions of the single and none of them features 'Starry Eyes' (which is BTW the title to the rough early version of 'Only time will tell')
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Somewhere I think I still have the 45 of Don't Cry with Daylight on the B-side.(...)

What does 'somewhere' mean? Are you telling me you don't know where you have your holy Asia records ? if I had place I would have an altar for them
BTW happy belated b-day.

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Molt├ęs gracies, Roger   My vinyl has been through too many moves through the years.

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