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zevonsky72

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i am interested in picking up a copy of Dave Gallant's Asia history book, but I understand there are three editions. The first was "The Heat Goes On" from 2001, and the second wad the second version of that book from 2004. The third one is the "Heat Of The Moment" from 2007, after the original Asia reunited. Does anyone have all three versions? Are they very different? I'm curious as there aren't many substantive reviews of this book(s) out there.
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It's actually Dave Gallant, not John. I do have all three. The best is the 2007 edition which covers the reunion and speaks with each member individually about the band past and present. Very worthwhile if you're a fan.
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It's actually Dave Gallant, not John. I do have all three. The best is the 2007 edition which covers the reunion and speaks with each member individually about the band past and present. Very worthwhile if you're a fan.


Thanks. Does the 2007 edition downplay the John Payne years? I guess what I'm asking is whether the 2007 edition omits material from the pre-reunion editions.
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It gives mention to them, but focuses more on the original members and what they were up to during the intervening years. John Wetton's section in particular gets into a lot of his solo career post/pre Asia.


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I've actually looked for Dave online, haven't been able to find him I've lost track of him after the armada. Does he ever frequent the boards? He ran the armada for many years.
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It gives mention to them, but focuses more on the original members and what they were up to during the intervening years. John Wetton's section in particular gets into a lot of his solo career post/pre Asia.



I understand that the first and second editions of the book, under the title The Heat Goes On, contain a significant amount of detail on the Payne-era.  Although I am more fond of the Wetton-era material, I'd like to get as a complete a view of all of the Asia albums.  If I read these comments right, the third edition is a significant enough of a rewrite as to really be a different book than the first two editions - and that the first two editions are really the only place to get a full discussion of the Payne era.

It sounds like I would need to get both the second and third editions for a complete story of Asia.  Would anyone disagree with that?
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It gives mention to them, but focuses more on the original members and what they were up to during the intervening years. John Wetton's section in particular gets into a lot of his solo career post/pre Asia.



I understand that the first and second editions of the book, under the title The Heat Goes On, contain a significant amount of detail on the Payne-era.  Although I am more fond of the Wetton-era material, I'd like to get as a complete a view of all of the Asia albums.  If I read these comments right, the third edition is a significant enough of a rewrite as to really be a different book than the first two editions - and that the first two editions are really the only place to get a full discussion of the Payne era.

It sounds like I would need to get both the second and third editions for a complete story of Asia.  Would anyone disagree with that?


It all boils down to what your interest level is....There are a significant number of people that DO NOT recognize any Asia incarnation between 1991 and 2005. It is referred to as a "cover band".

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I seem to remember Dave Gallant helping out on JW's merch stand at a gig at the Brook in the early '00s/late 90s- indeed I think I bought JW's 'My Own Time' from him (didn't realise who he was until after). Perhaps that's why the JW section is more detailed?

Oh, and at the risk of reopening wounds, I saw Asia in 1992 with John Payne and enjoyed the show (Jan Cyrka was support- great player he is). And I did chat with JW back then at the Brook so kind of understand why there were difficulties.

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It all boils down to what your interest level is....There are a significant number of people that DO NOT recognize any Asia incarnation between 1991 and 2005. It is referred to as a "cover band".


I suppose that indirectly answers my question.
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lets just say I had something to do with the breakup of that other band.

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Not sure that's something I would boast about...

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Ive got the 2007 book after a lot of searching and it does focus on the Original Band and members - I actually wasn't aware of a 2001 and 2004 edition but it would make sense that the Payne era was highlighted. Ive seen the Original band and the Payne band and the reformed Original band and enjoyed them all - you've sometimes got to take what you can get. I can't understand some of the animosity shown as Asia could have vanished completely had the Payne /Downes era not happened. That said there is only one JW and that voice is Asia. However I really don't understand what Payne is now trying to do with the Asia name as it is clearly now a 'cover band'.
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Considering that Geoff downes co wrote just about every song during the Payne years, I think it's very disgusting the way people trash talk those years.

Also, okpeclark is a mentally ill nut job suffering from delusions of grandeur
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and your a god? I don't think so, so stop being a prick Sinister !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

don't know what your issue is with me, but it must be a illness you suffer from, so who's the nutcase?

Go ahead and keep trashing me on Johns Guestbook, I love a good angry Laugh.[crazy]

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paul, coming on here saying you broke up 90's asia isn't exactly healthy behavior either.  it would be wise if you took a look in the mirror now and then.  this will be my last post to you ever.  have a nice life.
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