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Amie's thread on Rick Rubin triggered another producer's question to pose to John and fellow GB's:

Do you know Rupert Hine and what do you think of his production work? Just in case you don't know him. He produced Saga (Worlds Apart & Heads Or Tales), Rush (Presto & Roll The Bones), Chris de Burgh, among others. His solo work (both under his own name and under the Thinkman banner) contains some great songwriting and producing. In the recent past, however his work is a little less noteworthy. Any thoughts?


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Yes,I'm a fan. I met him in the run-up to Battle Lines.He was happy with the demos I'd done,and liked how they'd been recorded.I liked him as a man,and I liked his ideas,but Virgin wanted a hands-on dictator-dude,rather than a sympathetic co-prod.
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Funnily enough I was only listening to The Deep End the other day..Great songwriting and fine production..as you would expect.I know what you mean about his lack of output recently..His website was last updated March 2004!


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Just thought of another...David Hentschel(early Genesis).A great soundtrack to Educating Rita.Anyone agree??


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Yes,I'm a fan. I met him in the run-up to Battle Lines.He was happy with the demos I'd done,and liked how they'd been recorded.I liked him as a man,and I liked his ideas,but Virgin wanted a hands-on dictator-dude,rather than a sympathetic co-prod.

I would give my right arm (I'm a lefty) to hear the fruits of such a collaboration. Maybe in the future?

Ric, I only know David Hentschel from the two 'transition' albums by Genesis. I never gave the production on those two much thought until I recently bought the SACD versions. Trick Of The Tail sounds particularly good. So in 'hine'sight (desperately trying to stay on-topic) those were well-produced albums.
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There are some pretty hefty in-band producers on TOTT,you never know what contribution an engineer had.Sometimes they just translate the band's ideas onto tape without actually shaping anything. I'm not saying that's the case, but it's possible.
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I just LOVE the way Rupert Hine produced Chris De Burgh's works ! Especially albums like "The Getaway" and "Man On The Line" .


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I just LOVE the way Rupert Hine produced Chris De Burgh's works ! Especially albums like "The Getaway" and "Man On The Line" .

Yep, I'm totally with you on that one. This brings me to another point: during the 80's  and early 90's Hine seemed insisting on doing 2 albums by the same artist. And every time with the second one being the better one. Maybe the producer and the artist involved needed some time to get comfortable with each other. Although he did a later album with CdB, which I think wasn't as good as the 2 you mentioned. But that could just as well be Cdb's doing.
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Did he produce Into the Light? I love that CD, but usually pull out Live in Dortmund. I can fall so deeply into that musicscape it's hard to find my way back....but pleasantly so, especially if there is a nice Chenin Blanc involved.


Same thing for Tom Petty, but less so. I still pine for the hat he wore in the Rebel Without a Clue video.



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Didnt Rupert Hine write and perform the "Pina Colada" song?

I'm much more familiar with Rupert's brother, Mac, who has played drums on hundreds of records since the late 70s and contines to be a quite viable performer to this day..
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Didnt Rupert Hine write and perform the "Pina Colada" song?

I was wondering if and when this question would pop up
The answer is: No, he didn't. Rupert Holmes did that (Escape).

Didn't his brother play drums on the album "Ghost in the Mac Hine"
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Did he produce Into the Light? I love that CD, but usually pull out Live in Dortmund. I can fall so deeply into that musicscape it's hard to find my way back....but pleasantly so, especially if there is a nice Chenin Blanc involved.


Same thing for Tom Petty, but less so. I still pine for the hat he wore in the Rebel Without a Clue video.



Sorry Milady, Hine did not produce Into The Light. The later album I referred to is "The Power Of Ten".
He also did Camel's "I Can See Your House From Here"


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Yes,I'm a fan. I met him in the run-up to Battle Lines.He was happy with the demos I'd done,and liked how they'd been recorded.I liked him as a man,and I liked his ideas,but Virgin wanted a hands-on dictator-dude,rather than a sympathetic co-prod.

I would give my right arm (I'm a lefty) to hear the fruits of such a collaboration. Maybe in the future?

Ric, I only know David Hentschel from the two 'transition' albums by Genesis. I never gave the production on those two much thought until I recently bought the SACD versions. Trick Of The Tail sounds particularly good. So in 'hine'sight (desperately trying to stay on-topic) those were well-produced albums.
Apologies Jos if I digressed slightly..my point was that DH,like RH,although predominently producers do compose....Educating Rita being a good example.

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Absolutely no need to apologise, ric. It was a perfect opp to put the 'hine' pun in, so thank you. BTW, you put Educating Rita on my homework list.
A propos, my girlfriend gave me the Hentschel produced '...and then there were three' SACD for my birthday yesterday (thankyou). Coincidence? I think not!

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Absolutely no need to apologise, ric. It was a perfect opp to put the 'hine' pun in, so thank you. BTW, you put Educating Rita on my homework list.
A propos, my girlfriend gave me the Hentschel produced '...and then there were three' SACD for my birthday yesterday (thankyou). Coincidence? I think not!

Happy birthday Jos..enjoy the pressies!One more to put to you is the classic Anthony Phillips album Wise after the Event.RH produced and contributed vocals/percussion/vibes.What a combination of talent there.

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